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The Chewjitsu Podcast

Why Modern BJJ Sucks For Modern MMA (Episode 403)

The Chewjitsu Podcast

Eugene Tsozik

Wrestling, Sports

4.9653 Ratings

🗓️ 23 February 2026

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of the podcast, Chewy and Eugene discuss why modern BJJ has been less effective in modern mixed martial arts.

We discuss the BJJ ruleset shift created in 1975 that incentivized groundwork and removed penalties for guard pulling which ultimately shaped the direction of Jiu-Jitsu.

We also talk about the technique that Jiu-Jitsu does best, the first "Three Waves of MMA," what Chewy's preferred guard was for MMA when in bottom position, the best base for MMA and also for self defense, the importance of sparring and going live for stress inoculation, "Alpha Male Bros," and the idea of "Inflated grandiosity."

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Transcript

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0:00.0

What up, guys? So today's podcast is going to be, it's going to be based on Robert Drysdale's new book. He sent me the book. We've had him on the podcast before to talk about his other books, which I enjoyed. I know some people very much just like them, but I think they're important. They get at some of the history of Jiu-Jitsu. And there is an idea that he talks about in this book about some of the important contributions of Jiu-Tzu to MMA.

0:24.6

And then also kind of one of the reasons why modern BJJ kind of sucks for modern MMA.

0:32.4

And so again, this is something where, you know, jiu-jitsu people, our sport has basically

0:40.4

MMA has evolved and BGJ has evolved.

0:44.4

And they haven't evolved necessarily together.

0:48.1

And if you look at things like wrestling, like sport of wrestling, wrestling's evolved, of course,

0:53.2

but wrestling has remained a dominant, like base, a dominant art inside of the MMA ring in cages.

1:02.0

Now, again, everybody uses some little bit of jih Tzu inside of MMA, right?

1:10.0

Even if like they don't know that they've been influenced by it,

1:12.7

a lot of times people have been influenced by jihitsu no matter what, right?

1:15.3

Jiu-Jitsu changed the landscape of fighting period,

1:17.7

Brazilian jiu-jitsu.

1:18.6

And so that's there.

1:19.9

But again, talking about the evolution of the sports,

1:21.7

because our sport has changed a lot in the last like 30 years.

1:25.2

And so Robert Drysdale talks about one of the reasons why that happened.

1:29.2

And it kind of starts back in 1975, based on his ideas, which I think are probably pretty

1:34.7

reasonable because basically they set up an incentive structure to support the changes that

1:40.2

were going to happen. And they did it sort of unknowingly they had other intentions but again

1:44.7

it's one of these things where when you look at human drives humans are more motivated by

1:50.4

incentive structures than they are by like punishments you know like no punishments obviously

1:55.3

can work in some cases but like giving someone a ladder to climb humans would that they're

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