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The Daily Beast Podcast

Why Mastermind Ghislaine Was Worse Than Epstein

The Daily Beast Podcast

The Daily Beast

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4.68.4K Ratings

🗓️ 24 July 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Investigative reporter Tara Palmeri joins Joanna Coles to dig into the twisted saga of Ghislaine Maxwell—her crimes, her secrets, and why the Trump's Justice Department is knocking at her door. As Maxwell serves 20 years in a Florida prison, new signs point to a potential deal with Trump-era officials. Why now—and what does she know? Palmeri shares chilling victim accounts, unsealed evidence Maxwell wants buried, and fresh questions about whether or not she could still reveal long held details to authorities. From Prince Andrew to Alan Dershowitz, the web of powerful men around Maxwell remains tangled. And around MAGA world, a shocking new chant is gaining steam: “Free Ghislaine.” Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

You never know where the journey will take you.

0:03.0

One Tinder match.

0:05.0

And not only have I met someone new,

0:07.0

but we've discovered a sick Italian restaurant together.

0:11.0

And it turns out, football is now our thing.

0:15.0

Didn't see that one coming?

0:17.0

Discover unexpected possibilities with Tinder.

0:21.9

Whatever it takes you, it starts with a swipe.

0:25.2

Tinder, download the app today.

0:32.1

We should, as Americans demand that because we want to know what's going on.

0:36.8

Are they having a secret deal with the woman who was grooming children for Jeffrey Epstein?

0:45.4

I'm Joanna Coles. I'm the chief content officer of The Daily Beast.

0:48.9

I'm back from my vacation.

0:50.3

Thank you to Hugh Doherty for holding the fort so ably.

0:52.9

And thank you for your comments on YouTube, noticing my absence.

0:56.9

I appreciate it.

0:58.7

I come back to find a White House roiling in panic with the Jeffrey Epstein story that simply will not go away.

1:07.1

The MAGA base is riled up.

1:08.9

And who better to talk to today than Tara Parmary, an expert on Gillen Maxwell.

1:14.3

Because in an extraordinary development, Todd Blanche, the deputy attorney general, has said he's going down to interview Gillen Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein's literal partner in crime at her Florida jail.

1:28.0

Now, Gillen, you may remember, was found guilty of sex trafficking in June of 2020 and sentenced to 20 years in jail.

1:37.1

So the question is, what does Gillen have that the victims haven't already given up?

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