Why Killing Sinwar Won’t End the War

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🗓️ 22 October 2024

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Does the death of Yahya Sinwar finally make a ceasefire in Gaza possible? Guests: Jonathan Dekel-Chen, professor of Soviet and East European Jewry at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and father of Sagui Dekel-Chen, one of the hostages held by Hamas. Gregg Carlstrom, Middle East correspondent for the Economist. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme and Rob Gunther. Disclosure in Podcast Description: A Bond Account is a self-directed brokerage account with Public Investing, member FINRA/SIPC. Deposits into this account are used to purchase 10 investment-grade and high-yield bonds. As of 9/26/24, the average, annualized yield to worst (YTW) across the Bond Account is greater than 6%. A bond’s yield is a function of its market price, which can fluctuate; therefore, a bond’s YTW is not “locked in” until the bond is purchased, and your yield at time of purchase may be different from the yield shown here. The “locked in” YTW is not guaranteed; you may receive less than the YTW of the bonds in the Bond Account if you sell any of the bonds before maturity or if the issuer defaults on the bond. Public Investing charges a markup on each bond trade. See our Fee Schedule. Bond Accounts are not recommendations of individual bonds or default allocations. The bonds in the Bond Account have not been selected based on your needs or risk profile. See https://public.com/disclosures/bond-account to learn more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	When I heard that Israeli forces had killed the leader of Hamas in Gaza last week,
0:11.0	there's one person I wanted to talk to, someone we've had on the show before.
0:16.4	Jonathan Decolgen. There are about a hundred October 7th hostages remaining in Gaza. Jonathan's son,
0:27.1	Sagi is one of them. Jonathan heard the news about Yachya Sinwar at home.
0:34.0	He splits his time between Israel and Florida.
0:37.0	His first thought was something like relief,
0:41.0	a feeling that justice had been served. But that was followed immediately by fear.
0:47.6	The death of the undisputed leader of Hamas, as surprising as that may have been, in principle opens up opportunities for new
0:57.6	negotiations that you know seemingly Mr. No is no longer on the Palestinian side, on Hamas's side, is no longer on the scene, perhaps that could produce some new results.
1:11.0	The problem is that there's an equal truth, the fact that, look, we simply do not know how the
1:19.3	captors of our loved ones, all 101 of the hostages, how they will react. Amid the chaos, the post-Sienoir
1:27.6	chaos, it certainly gives us ample reason for worry.
1:41.5	Jonathan and his family have spent the last year being uncommonly open about their loss.
1:48.0	Siggi's wife, Avital, was seven months pregnant when he was taken. She decided to let Israeli TV follow her through her pregnancy and the birth of their daughter.
1:55.0	It was a way of making Sagi's story unforgettable to anyone who might tune in.
2:00.0	Even Sagi himself.
2:02.0	Some Hamas fighters have been known to watch Israeli television.
2:06.0	Segi's family wanted him to know that they're safe.
2:10.0	They're waiting for him.
2:12.0	Avital named their daughter, Shahar.
2:15.0	In Hebrew, that means dawn, which sounds hopeful.
2:20.0	But it's also the name of a child from their kibbutz,
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