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What Next | Daily News and Analysis

When It Comes to the Border, Has Trump Already Won?

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate

News, Daily News, News Commentary, Politics

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 23 October 2024

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Donald Trump’s most consistent policy message has been anti-immigration, but according to surveys, more than a quarter of Kamala Harris supporters also support mass deportations. How did American opinions on immigration sour across the political spectrum so quickly? Guest: Rogé Karma, staff writer at The Atlantic. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. We want to hear from you! Submit your answers to our What Next listener survey at slate.com/WhatNextSurvey. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:03.0

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0:28.8

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0:31.8

Okay, on to the show.

0:34.0

I probably don't have to remind you

0:40.0

I probably don't have to remind you about the language Donald Trump is using to refer to immigrants in the closing weeks of his campaign.

0:49.0

But it's bracing, to quote the man who would be president,

0:52.6

and sit with his words for a bit.

0:54.9

So I'll do it anyway.

0:57.9

Trump is called immigrants animals, stone cold killers. He's called them the worst people, an enemy within.

1:06.4

Or as Rijé Karma puts it at the Atlantic. I would broadly characterize

1:11.4

Donald Trump's description of immigrants as a

1:14.4

psychopathic horde of murderers. He talks about them coming from insane

1:18.9

asylums, from mental institutions, from jails and prisons, and he has continuously put forward as his big policy.

1:28.0

What he said is going to be the largest deportation campaign in American history.

1:33.0

This is not exactly a surprise.

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