This is Hidden Killers with Tony Bruske.

Here now, Tony Bruske.

Of course, the conspiracy to play out involves now more than 40 people, many different

departments of government, and then civilians, housewives, teachers, just every normal human being from white collar to blue collar it's just a

section of society everyone and most don't know each other and they all would have had to

conspire at the same time to go against karen reed and I don't know, plant evidence.

I mean, because we've now heard about all the solo cups.

That's a big thing.

Like, yeah, it does, what does it even prove?

It's John's blood at the end of the day.

Right.

But this is Kate McLaughlin.

This is a first responder on the scene that they were trying to discredit about her relationship with one of the Elbert's daughters.

But this is her testimony, which was pretty solid.

It's another recognition of her saying, I hit him.

Once we had come to a stop, I asked if there had been any significant trauma

that happened that preceded this. And she answered with a series of statements that she repeated,

I hit him. I hit him. There was a woman next to us who told her to calm down,

stop talking, calm down, you're hysterical.

So she repeated, I hit him, and a police officer asked her, said, you what?

And she repeated it again, I hit him.

And the officer then signaled for his sergeant to come down to the scene or down to where he was.

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