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This is Recode Media with Peter Kafka. That's me. It's powered by digital media. It is a real company,

an actual, honest to God, real company. a real company, an actual, honest to God,

real company. I'm here with Jessica Cohen, honest to God, real person. Hi, Jessica, how are you? Hello, I'm great. How are you? I am well. Thanks for coming. We've been wanting to do this for a while, ever since you became editor-in-chief of Mashable? Executive editor, yeah. Executive editor, is there, is there an editor? Is there a no, we have a chief content officer and then executive editor.

So it's like, do you really need a double chief? executive editor. Executive editor? Is there, is there an editor? I fuck up every one of these intros.

No, we have a chief content officer and then executive editor. So it's like, do you really need a double chief on the masthead? These decisions really don't matter. All right. I got your name right, title wrong. Newsroom lady. You've done many things prior to this. Among them, you were an editor of gawker.com. I'm interviewing every single

former editor of Gawker.com.

How does that make you feel?

It makes me feel kind of old right now, or maybe I should do something else in my life, but it continues to be interesting. So thanks for coming. Gawker.com. Vocative. We were just telling what vocative was. You were at Vanity Fair for a cup of coffee? Where else? Jezabel.

Jezbole for five years. Do we have your full resume here? I think those are the high points. Okay, good. So we're done. Oh, New York Mag. I launched the cut and helped grow a vulture and daily intel and all that. You were a veteran of New York media, digital media. I suppose so. Now that makes me feel old.

Yeah.

Sorry.

Yeah.

Thanks for coming.

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