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forward name. Hi, Scott. Thanks for joining. Thanks for having me. You do many things. You've written a book. We'll talk about that. You're making a cool Netflix show with Steven Soderberg. You've made a couple of my favorite movies. Walk Among Tombstones is a

recent one. Out of sight is one of my all-time favorite movies. Thank you. Should we go through

your entire IMDB? We can do whatever you want. What's the best way to describe you? Writer,

director, all of the above? I think all of the above. I'm directing more these days than I was

before. So probably, I think going forward, I'll do a lot more

writing and directing. So probably when you listen to this podcast, Scott's newest project that you can

consume will be Logan. That's the adult Wolverine movie? Yes. I sure hope so. You're the writer for that

one. Yes. Yes, with Jim Mangold who directed it. So this is an R-rated superhero movie. Think about a very hard-ar paper moon. That's really what it is. That's great. Is that a Fox film? Yeah, so do they know you're making a hard-ar paper moon? They do. God bless him. Jim and I worked on the last one one. He directed the one before, and we tried to do something with that. We got halfway. It was a different, we'll say, leadership at Fox at the time. And so we only got half of what we wanted to do in the last one. So when the leadership changed at the studio, we had a great conversation with them. And on this one,

we were sort of able to do our unsuperhero superhero movie. This is what people have been

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