Why is the Trump Admin Purging Our Military’s Best? (w/ Mark Hertling)
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🗓️ 30 October 2025
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Read Joe Perticone in The Bulwark, "SCOOP: Trump Swaps Decorated Admiral With 33-Year-Old DOGEr": https://www.thebulwark.com/p/scoop-trump-replaces-admiral-office-naval-research-rothenhaus-riley-doge
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, Bill Crystal here, editor at large of the bulwark, and joined by my colleague, I think, official colleague now, Mark Hurtling, who has been doing so much with us already. Of course, we discussed just two weeks ago, the retiring of the commander of Southcom, Admiral Hosey, and I've got a big audience, I was going to say, and I think it was very helpful and informative to our viewers and listeners. So Mark, first of all, congratulations |
| 0:21.0 | or thank you for joining us and congratulations on joining us and congratulations on your new book, |
| 0:25.7 | which I think is out just today. Is that right? |
| 0:28.4 | Yeah, it's listed today on Amazon and Barnes & Noble, but it won't be available until the |
| 0:34.3 | beginning of the new year, but I'm really excited about it. It was a year-long effort, |
| 0:38.9 | and it was a lot of fun to write. Say a word about what it's about. Yeah, it's called, |
| 0:43.4 | if I don't return, Bill, and it came from Desert Storm was the origination of it. I wrote a journal |
| 0:49.7 | because I know this is hard to believe going back to Desert Storm Days, but when we were first |
| 0:54.6 | deployed from Europe, we were told we were going to lose 50% of our unit. And so thinking that I was |
| 1:00.8 | going to be a coin toss on whether or not I returned home, I started a journal for our two young |
| 1:05.0 | sons to teach them about life and gave them. The first part of the journal is really about |
| 1:10.5 | friendship and emotions and love and |
| 1:13.5 | those kind of things but then when it got into the war I started writing at the end of the war |
| 1:17.7 | at the end of the very short war I started writing my recollections of what happened and then |
| 1:21.8 | after the war as well well our youngest son unbeknownst to me took that journal about a year ago and typed it up and gave it to me for a Christmas present last year and said, okay, Dad, we've read this. |
| 1:35.3 | My brother and I have read this and we realized that what you were trying to do is prepare us for life if you didn't come home. |
| 1:40.9 | But now you've lived 30 more years. |
| 1:42.9 | Now you've got to prepare our grandchildren |
| 1:45.0 | for additional ports of life. So I took all the journal entries and provided later reflections |
| 1:51.1 | of what I've since learned since I wrote the journal in 1991. And it came out to be sort of a |
| 1:58.5 | catharsis of writing about not only war and combat and the military, |
| 2:03.3 | but also about faith and emotion and family and love and that kind of stuff. So it's going to be |
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