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Bulwark Takes

Heritage Chooses Tucker Over Its Own Principles

Bulwark Takes

The Bulwark

Politics, News Commentary, News, Society & Culture

4.71.1K Ratings

🗓️ 31 October 2025

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

Tucker Carlson’s gone full mask-off, giving airtime to white nationalist Nick Fuentes while the Heritage Foundation rushes to defend him. Sam Stein and Will Sommer discuss the latest False Flag

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0:00.0

Everybody, it's me, Sam Stein, managing editor at the book with my man.

0:03.7

Will Summer, author of False Flag, one of the most critically acclaimed, widely loved, and praised newsletters in the game.

0:12.1

Truly, a masterpiece.

0:13.4

That's me.

0:14.3

One review that I read the other day said, essential reading.

0:20.1

Essential.

0:22.5

It must be talking about another newsletter, but I'm happy to take it sorry that was actually the breakdown newsletters I got my wires

0:29.3

question will you have another good one today um you made the case I wasn't convinced but I think

0:35.2

you made it uh after I read I was convinced that this Tucker

0:38.6

Carlson interview with Nick Fuentes is a big, big deal. I guess I wasn't convinced because I'm sort of

0:45.3

the mindset like, oh my God, so much crap is happening. Of course, they're talking to each other.

0:50.2

Whatever. This is just like furthering a trend that we've already experienced. But your position is

0:56.5

that actually it's kind of a seminal moment. Can you elaborate as to why? Yeah. So just to lay the

1:01.5

groundwork here. So just to lay the groundwork here, we had on Monday Tucker Carlson put out this

1:07.8

kind of long anticipated interview he was going to do with the white nationalist podcaster Nick Fuentes, who's very much arising and kind of challenging the status quo force in MAGA media.

1:19.0

And, you know, Tucker, I will say, basically let Nick Fuentes say whatever.

1:23.5

I mean, at one point he talked about organized jury and Tucker's going, you know, why were people

1:28.8

mad at you and then Nick Fuentes would give kind of like the biggest spin to his comments?

1:32.7

And then he'd say, well, I don't know, you know, I can't believe they're canceling you for that, Nick.

1:36.6

So he gave him this really massive platform.

1:39.9

And I wanted to write about this because it really kind of, it's been taking, it's gone off like a bomb in right wing media and everyone's freaking out about it. Because Nick Fuentes, because this is a guy who's a Holocaust denier, very openly anti-black. I mean, he'll say the N-word. You know, he's obviously extremely anti-Jewish and, you know, has admired Hitler, people like that. And so this is someone that even in kind of the

2:01.8

topsy-turvy world of right-wing media these days was seen as someone you didn't really

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