Why Is the Fossil Fuel Industry Funding Anti-Trans Politics?
Drilled
Pushkin Industries
4.6 • 2.4K Ratings
🗓️ 22 August 2025
⏱️ 20 minutes
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Summary
Special guest Vivian Taylor, a researcher on both trans rights and climate policy, joins us to share the the shocking connections between fossil billionaires and anti-trans campaigns. Turns out, it’s easy to distract people with genital inspectors so you don’t have to deal with methane leakage inspectors. We break down the overlap between anti-trans, anti-climate, and other right-wing movements, the critical need for unity in tackling these pressing issues, and how culture-war politics distract from climate accountability.
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| 0:00.0 | If you're going to talk about the intersection between restrictive gender norms and climate |
| 0:04.9 | obstruction in the Year of Our Lord 2025, you have to also look at the crossover between |
| 0:11.0 | anti-trans groups and anti-climate groups, because folks, that Venn diagram is a circle. |
| 0:21.7 | Welcome back to Carmen Bros, a collaboration between drilled and non-toxic. |
| 0:26.3 | I'm Amy Westervelt. |
| 0:27.7 | I'm Daniel Penny. |
| 0:29.0 | Today, we're bringing you a conversation with Vivian Taylor, one of the key researchers |
| 0:33.5 | behind a story you might have seen earlier this year in Atmos and Heeded about the fossil |
| 0:39.6 | billionaires funding anti-trans campaigns. Vivian has been working on both trans rights |
| 0:45.3 | and climate issues for a very long time, so we figured she was the perfect person to talk to |
| 0:51.0 | about all of it. |
| 1:03.3 | Hey, drill listeners. |
| 1:08.6 | I wanted to recommend another podcast that I've been listening to. |
| 1:10.9 | I've been really enjoying it. |
| 1:12.0 | It's called Cited. |
| 1:15.8 | And it's about the politics of science and research. |
| 1:20.7 | So very tied into all the things that we are talking about this season and that we talk about a lot on this podcast. |
| 1:22.4 | Their new season is called Green Dreams. |
| 1:25.2 | Each episode tells the story of a utopian thinker and their dreams for |
| 1:29.9 | our green future. You'll learn about prominent environmental theorists across the ideological |
| 1:35.6 | spectrum and about some lesser-known figures that operate in the shadows. Should we make |
| 1:41.9 | these green dreams a reality, or are they actually nightmares? |
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