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Why is the CDC Silent About The Hantavirus Outbreak? (w/ Katelyn Jetelina)

Bulwark Takes

The Bulwark

Politics, News Commentary, News, Society & Culture

4.71.1K Ratings

🗓️ 8 May 2026

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

Jonathan Cohn is joined by epidemiologist and former CDC consultant Katelyn Jetelina to unpack the emerging hantavirus outbreak linked to a small expedition cruise ship in the South Atlantic. Katelyn breaks down what hantavirus is, how it typically spreads, why this outbreak is unusual, and what health officials actually know so far. She also explains why experts are urging calm rather than panic and how different the hantavirus is from Covid.

Read more of Katelyn's work: https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Bullwork Takes. I'm Jonathan Cohn, author of The Breakdown News.

0:05.3

If you watch the news, if you're on social media, I'm sure you've heard about this Hanta virus outbreak.

0:11.3

Started on a small cruise ship in the South Atlantic. Three people have died.

0:15.6

We are monitoring people scattered across a dozen countries who may have been exposed to this.

0:21.6

World Health authorities, American Health Authorities have been very clear.

0:24.6

You don't need to panic.

0:26.6

This is not a red alert pandemic situation or anything like that.

0:30.6

On the other hand, this is a serious disease.

0:32.6

It is a fatal disease. It's a scary disease.

0:35.6

We want to give you the facts so you can follow this

0:39.0

story and do so with a clear mind and understanding when to worry, when not to worry. And we have

0:46.3

the perfect guest for that. Caitlin Janelina is an epidemiologist. If you're on Substac,

0:52.4

if you're on social media, you know her as the creator and author of your local epidemiologist.

0:57.2

She is also a former consultant to the CDC.

1:00.4

She is extremely knowledgeable and one of the best people I know at explaining things

1:05.9

simply, calmly in a way that doesn't make you unnecessarily panicked or

1:10.8

unnecessarily lase. So Caitlin, thank you so much for joining us. Thanks for having me. I'm glad to be here. Yes. I feel like, you know, when you're here, it's never a good occasion, but, you know, hopefully you can kind of, you know, at least set our expectations properly. So let's start at the top.

1:27.9

What is this disease?

1:29.2

Haanta virus, not Hanta virus, as I learned recently.

1:31.6

Haanta virus.

1:32.1

What is it?

1:32.6

Yes, hauntavirus is this pretty nasty virus.

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