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The Cure for Chronic Pain with Nicole Sachs, LCSW

Why Is the Body Attacking Itself? Rethinking Autoimmune Disease

The Cure for Chronic Pain with Nicole Sachs, LCSW

Nicole Sachs, LCSW

Spirituality, Alternative Health, Religion & Spirituality, Health & Fitness

4.92.8K Ratings

🗓️ 13 March 2026

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Learn how to JournalSpeak ➡️ ⁠LEARN HOW: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.yourbreakawake.com/journalspeak⁠ In this episode, I explore a question that has been coming into my inbox for years: why are autoimmune diseases happening, and is there anything we can do to influence the course of them? I am not a medical doctor and I am not claiming that mindbody work changes blood markers or diagnoses. But over many years of working with people suffering from chronic symptoms, I have observed something remarkable. Again and again, people who come to this work with autoimmune diagnoses begin to experience fewer and fewer symptoms. Their charts may still contain the diagnosis, but their bodies stop flaring. This raises an important question—if the symptoms are real, and they absolutely are, why is the body producing them in the first place? In this conversation, I look at autoimmune disease through the lens of nervous system regulation and the brain’s powerful drive to protect us. When the nervous system is stuck in a chronic state of threat, the body can begin expressing symptoms in ways that feel structural and deeply physical. I talk about how pain and inflammation can function as protective signals from the brain, and why learning to regulate the nervous system can change the internal environment in which these symptoms exist. This episode invites you to consider a different framework for understanding autoimmune illness—and to recognize the surprising power we may have to influence our physical and emotional health. Join us! XOOX n. SUBSCRIBE TO MY NEW SUBSTACK! So excited about this one :)) Want your questions answered directly by me? 💛 Receive support, guidance, connection, and direct access to me with MEMBERSHIP: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/y7wadt8d⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 COACHING WITH TRAINED COACHES SUPERVISED DIRECTLY BY NICOLE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PLEASE RATE AND REVIEW THE PODCAST HERE TO HELP OTHERS FIND IT!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Producer: Lisa Eisenpresser ~~~~~ SUPPORT: 🟠 Struggling with chronic pain? Check out my Freedom From Chronic Pain course   GET THE FIRST LESSON FREE: https://www.yourbreakawake.com/painfree⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🟠  Anxiety controlling your life? Try my Freedom From an Anxious Life course  GET THE FIRST LESSON FREE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.yourbreakawake.com/anxietyfree⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  🧠  Learn more about the brain science and clinical experiences in my book   MIND YOUR BODY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.yourbreakawake.com/book ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  💛  Receive support, guidance, connection, and direct access to Nicole with  MEMBERSHIP: https://www.yourbreakawake.com/membership⁠ ~~~~ THE CURE FOR CHRONIC PAIN JOIN THE CONVERSATION ON INSTAGRAM  👉   https://www.instagram.com/nicolesachslcsw⁠ SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 👉   https://podfollow.com/the-cure-for-chronic-pain-with-nicole-sachs-lcsw⁠ LEARN ABOUT ANNUAL OMEGA RETREAT ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 👉   https://www.yourbreakawake.com/work-with-nicole Podcast music by the beautiful and talented Danielle Furst: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@musicfurst⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Welcome to the Cure for Chronic Pain podcast with me, Nicole Sacks. You are here. Welcome, welcome to the pod.

0:45.2

This is Nicole and I'm happy to be here with you guys today. We're going to tackle a subject

0:50.2

today that I think is very important, not clearly understood or discussed enough in the

0:57.6

mind-body community. And I just want to bring everything together because I've been making

1:03.3

videos on Instagram. I've been writing on Substack and I'm here on this podcast. Those are my three

1:08.7

big places to share.

1:17.0

And I've really been getting a lot of questions, DMs, emails, et cetera, about autoimmune disease and about real confusions over, quote, what is real and what is insurmountable and what

1:26.7

is tackleable with this mind-body work and some confusion

1:32.4

in the form of resistance and being insulted, but really, really most not, most confusion around

1:39.6

how to help oneself, which is my favorite kind of confusion because I have answers.

1:49.7

You know, I'm most frustrated when people think that I'm saying the pain is in their head or their pain isn't real or they're hysterical or making it up, especially women.

1:55.0

My God, A, I am a woman.

1:57.1

B, I spend so much time in the company of women who are suffering and the last thing that I ever

2:04.8

want anyone to think is that I am thinking that you are making too much your symptoms.

2:09.4

But like I said, that is a very, very minuscule percentage.

2:13.2

And I'm happy to report that percentage has diminished extremely in the years that I come

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