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Hello and welcome to Coffeehouse Shots, the Spectators' Daily Politics Podcast.

I'm Cindy Yu, and today I'm joined by James Hill and Isabel Hardman.

So, James, we've just seen another Prime Minister's questions earlier today.

How do you think Kemi Badernock performed today?

I think it was a very difficult one for the leader of the opposition.

She obviously was going to be at a session dominated by foreign affairs and Kirstama's

trip to Ukraine, potentially the most important moment of his premiership thus far.

So she began by trying to be quite statesman-like, first of all, using quite a softball

open to say we welcome the Prime Minister of award assurances have been given on Ukraine.

And then she tried to turn the focus to yesterday's announcement on the increase of

defence spending, which is the pathway to get 3% in the next Parliament, and the uplift

to go order to increase defence spending to 2.5% by 2027. And what it ended up

happening, Cindy, was it came to be a debate around, you know, will the Chegos Island deal

be included in this amount? And Kirstama, if you say, he's got this habit, Kirstama,

this quite effective way of saying, oh, I've already dealt with that, I've already dealt with

that. And so she's not listening to my answers. And I think that it was difficult in the lobby Q&A session

afterwards with journalists to get them in much clarity on this. So, you know, Keir's Duma

was saying that the money, now it's yesterday, is going to be used for European security

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