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Hello and welcome to Coffee Houseshots, the Spectator's Daily Politics Podcast.

I'm Cindy Yu, and today I'm joined by James Hill and Peter Quentin, a Rousey Associate

Fellow and former policy advisor to Defence Secretary Ben Wallace.

Now, James, Kiyosama is in Washington.

Last night he was hosted by Peter Mandelson, the new ambassador to D.C. in his ambassadorial residence.

But later today, UK time, he will be seeing Donald Trump.

What can we, what does the government expect from this trip?

What are the things that it can hope to get?

Well, this is clearly the most important trip of Kier Stama's primorship thus far. And I think

speaking to figures in government, there is clearly a caginess and awareness about this trip.

And Kirstama, overnight, when he was talking to reports on the plane, acknowledged this and said,

I'm going to keep my answers tight. And they're very, very aware of the stakes of this

meeting with Donald Trump later today. They obviously will have had a huge numbers of

private conversations with European leaders. For instance, publicly, the Finnish Prime

Minister has come out in the past hour also and said that she's delighted that Kirstam

was going to make this case. And clearly, a lot of Europeans are hoping that the case for Ukraine and the European arguments can be heard via Kierstauma. Obviously, the thing

which has been dominating this week is the defence announcement. And I think that it's clear that,

as we talked about on yesterday's podcast, you know, the Donald doesn't do decimals. I think that

the plan for get to 3% we treat it as almost as a baseline.

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