Why Is Indiana Unable To Defend The Delphi Evidence?
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🗓️ 17 May 2026
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Summary
The defense raised FBI cell data that contradicted the van timeline. They raised a confession that named the wrong method. They raised an alternative suspect whose interview was allegedly recorded over by investigators. Indiana's answer: procedural default, waiver, harmless error. When a prosecution holding a 130-year conviction won't engage with the underlying record, three appeals judges have to ask themselves why.
Defense attorney Bob Motta joins Tony Brueski to break down what Indiana's procedural strategy actually tells you about the strength of what went to the jury. He walks through the selective admission of Richard Allen's jailhouse calls — one played for the jury, two excluded. One of the excluded calls is Allen asking his own father how much longer he can stay lucid. That call speaks directly to the voluntariness of the confessions the State is relying on, and the jury never heard it.
Motta also addresses the search warrant now facing de novo review — the one issue where the Court of Appeals owes no deference to Judge Fran Gull. If three judges rule the warrant was deficient, the .40-caliber pistol is gone. Not just from this case. From any retrial. The defense has formally requested oral arguments. Indiana has not joined that request. Who wants to stand in front of three judges and answer questions, and who would rather the panel stay in the file room — that asymmetry is the loudest signal in the docket about where this appeal actually stands.
Allen remains in an Oklahoma prison more than a thousand miles from Indiana, designated for safekeeping. Three judges are reading. A decision is coming.
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| 0:00.0 | This is the big breakdown. |
| 0:02.2 | A long look back at some of the biggest stories we're covering for you at the Hidden |
| 0:05.9 | Killers podcast and True Crime Today. |
| 0:10.8 | This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Bruske and Robin Drake. |
| 0:17.7 | Well, welcome back to the party. |
| 0:20.6 | If you have not been part of the Delphi Richard Allen saga over the last several years. |
| 0:28.3 | Well, there's a lot to take in. |
| 0:30.6 | If you're new, there's plenty of time to consume it. |
| 0:33.0 | We're going to go through where things are at today. |
| 0:35.6 | Richard Allen's appeal is now fully briefed. |
| 0:38.2 | Three judges in Indianapolis are reading the state's response and the defense's reply. |
| 0:44.2 | And the most striking thing about the state's response isn't what it argues, isn't what it does. |
| 0:49.4 | The defense raises a van timeline contradicted by FBI cell data, a confession to shooting two girls |
| 0:56.7 | that were killed with a blade, and an alternative suspect whose interview was allegedly |
| 1:01.5 | recorded over. The state's answer to most of it, which these are rather large things, |
| 1:06.9 | they don't just seem like it, they actually are. The state says, uh, armless error, |
| 1:12.4 | paperwork, waiver. Nothing to see here. Move along, everybody. When the prosecution, uh, is sitting on a |
| 1:19.2 | conviction, uh, they, they have to win on procedure rather than facts. The question then stops |
| 1:25.4 | being whether Allen got a fair trial and starts being |
| 1:28.4 | whether the state is even trying to defend the trial that it has. Bob Mata, defense attorney, |
| 1:34.2 | as always, is with us, who's been with us from the beginning on this case, has educated us on |
| 1:40.7 | this case, a thousand ways. And the saga just continues rob and drink retired fbi special |
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