Why Is Bitcoin Digital Credit So Important? | Matt Cole

The Pomp Podcast

Anthony Pompliano

Investing, Business

4.6 • 2K Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2026

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Matt Cole is the CEO of Strive Asset Management. In this conversation, we break down digital credit — what it is, how it works, and why it could be the most important asset in the transition from fiat to a bitcoin future. We discuss the mechanics of Strive's SATA product, dividend structures, Michael Saylor's decision to sell bitcoin, and why a thriving ecosystem of digital credit issuers is better for bitcoin long-term.

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0:00 - Intro
0:41 - What is digital credit & what problem does it solve?
5:17 - How the carry trade works
8:48 - Daily dividends & dividend structure
10:52 - Downside risk & balance sheet protection
16:18 - The strongest critique of digital credit
19:32 - Michael Saylor selling bitcoin
27:03 - Bitcoin price action vs. bullish headlines
31:32 - Where is digital credit taking capital from?
36:44 - Banks, Jamie Dimon & systemic risk
38:52 - Strive vs. Strategy
42:38 - Too much bitcoin held by public companies?
48:33 - Strive's mission & the road ahead

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0:52.3	As a Bitcoins in a long-time Bitcoin, I firmly believe that this debt crisis will not get better and we're transitioning to a Bitcoin future.
0:59.5	And I think digital credit could be the most important asset in this transition period.
1:06.2	What's going on, guys?
1:07.0	Today we've got a great conversation with Matt Cole.
1:09.0	Matt is the CEO of Strive Asset Management. And in this conversation, we do a breakdown of digital credit. He explains
1:14.3	what it is, how it works, what the risks are, and how they would respond to different situations.
1:18.9	We also get into all of the pros and cons of both strategy and strive having these instruments
1:23.7	in the market and how institutional investors are responding. I found this conversation fascinating. It helped me better understand digital credit. I hope it helps you as well. Here's my conversation with Matt Cole. All right, Matt, I want to talk about digital credit. This seems to be taking the world by storm, but at the same time, it is creating massive controversy. Can you just describe what is the problem that digital credit is solving? Yeah, I've been reflecting on this a lot, and I think the problem that it's solving is actually bigger than I first imagine.
1:52.0	So maybe I'll start with what I thought the problem that it was solving is and kind of what I think the problem that it's solving is now.
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