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The Pomp Podcast

Why Is Bitcoin CRASHING?! | Jordi Visser

The Pomp Podcast

Anthony Pompliano

Investing, Business

4.62K Ratings

🗓️ 6 June 2026

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor with 30+ years of experience and the author of the VisserLabs Substack. In this conversation, we discuss why bitcoin is down 50% and whether the bear market is over, why he's still buying through the dip, how AI agents will drive bitcoin adoption, and why the rotation from AI hardware to human software is the biggest investment opportunity right now.

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  • 0:00 - Intro
  • 0:45 - Why bitcoin is down 50% & is the bear market over?
  • 6:48 - What would convince Jordi to sell his bitcoin?
  • 9:07 - Bitcoin as the S&P 500 of crypto
  • 14:02 - Why bitcoin is safer than any company past 2030
  • 17:45 - Bitcoin volatility vs. the stock market
  • 22:22 - The five-layer AI stack & where revenues are missing
  • 26:22 - Token budgets & the shift to specialized AI
  • 35:10 - Are LLMs now commoditized?
  • 40:30 - Peptides as the API key for the human body
  • 49:24 - Healthcare, entitlements & the future outlook

Transcript

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0:22.7

Okay, Micah, what do you want now?

0:25.1

Roy, it's coming home, baby.

0:28.2

Can't you feel it?

0:29.3

The excitement, the group chats, the atmosphere.

0:33.0

Well...

0:34.6

Come on!

0:36.6

I've got a good feeling about this one, Roy.

0:39.3

The world's gone football!

0:44.3

Okay, Dan, a bit.

0:47.3

Getting on the action this summer with SkyBet.

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18 plus gambleaware.org.

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There are more AI agents on HTML sites than humans. This is where we're headed. So if you think the world of human beings is going to dominate commerce, it's not. It's AI agents. So if you ask me, what is a direct play on that? I believe Bitcoin is a direct play on agents dominating humans going forward. What's going on, guys? Today we get a great conversation with Jordie Visser. In this conversation, we talk about what's going on with Bitcoin. Why is it selling off? Is Jority worried and is he going to sell his Bitcoin? On top of that, we talk about what's going on with Eli Lilly, why he is so convicted that it could be the best AI name for the AI trade. And then we get into a bunch of other second and third order effects of what's going on with the infrastructure buildout, artificial intelligence, so much tokens being consumed. And then how does Bitcoin fit into all this? All that much more in this conversation with Jordi Visser. All right, Jordy, Bitcoin is down 50% from its all-time high. People are freaking out. Michael Saylor sold 32 Bitcoin this week and people

1:44.4

think that maybe he doesn't believe anymore. What's your take as to why Bitcoin has fallen so

1:48.2

much? And is it over? Or will Bitcoin recover? So I learned my lesson last year not to predict

1:55.0

levels on the upside. I'm also not going to predict levels on the downside. Last week in my weekend

2:00.8

video, I highlighted the difference

2:04.1

between a bull market and a bare market. And that's what charts are good for. We're still

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