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The Food Programme

Why Is Africa Feeding Us?

The Food Programme

BBC

Arts, Food

4.4943 Ratings

🗓️ 21 November 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Dan Saladino and reporter Jack Thompson investigate the UK's growing dependence on two farms in northern Senegal based around a lake. In recent years they have become the source of most of the sweetcorn, radishes and beans sold by supermarkets.

Is this a good arrangement for the UK and the Senegalese or a risk to food security in both countries?

Produced and presented by Dan Saladino. Reporting from Senegal, Jack Thompson.

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:07.0

Hello, I'm Emma Barnett. For most of my career, I've been on live radio, and I love it.

0:13.3

But I've always wondered, what if we'd had more time? How much deeper does the story go?

0:19.2

I remember having this very sharp thought that what you do right now, this is it.

0:24.3

This defines your life.

0:26.0

I'm ready to talk and ready to listen.

0:28.3

I'm insulted by how little the medical community is ever bothered with this.

0:33.9

Ready to talk with me, Emma Barnard, is my new podcast.

0:37.0

Listen on BBC Sounds.

0:39.9

In this program, we're on a journey to the far north of Senegal in West Africa. Look out into the

0:47.3

distance, you'll see mostly desert. Go further north, and you'll arrive in Mauritania and the Sahara.

0:55.0

And yet this is where I've asked a journalist named Jack Thompson to go in search of a story.

1:01.0

On the face of it, a tough assignment because, as you can imagine, it looks like such an unpromising place to find food.

1:09.0

So we've been driving up for five hours from Dacca, the Senegal's capital,

1:14.6

up to San Luis, which is right in the north of Senegal.

1:18.6

Dry, arid terrain, very sandy landscapes, only the occasional herder

1:24.6

riding along with their cattle and their goats and their sheep.

1:29.3

But if you know where to look, and Jack does, there is a food story here.

1:34.3

It's one with growing importance to all of us here in the UK.

1:38.3

And it's connected with water because, as Jack headed further north,

1:42.3

on the horizon appeared a huge river, along with a 40 kilometre lake,

1:48.5

at a network of canals.

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