All right, team, welcome back to The Man Talk Show.

Connor Beaten here.

And today I'm going to be talking about why I took two months of paternity leave.

My daughter was just born.

My son was born three and a half years ago.

He was born in March of 21. My daughter was

born a month ago. And I'm recording this now because I've seen a couple videos. I saw this video by

this guy. I think his name is Bedros Kulian. And he was talking about, I think it was Bedros Kulian,

it might be somebody else, but they were talking about how

how ridiculous it is for a man to take time off when his kids are born and that, you know, a father's not needed there.

And what, you know, what a father needs to do is to provide and all of those things. And I don't disagree with the fact that, you know, as a man, you can provide for your family, and that's incredibly important.

But I decided to take time off when my son was born because of a number of things.

And it's so fascinating to me that there is this kind of rhetoric against men for taking time off when their kids are born. I remember when

I worked at Apple, there was a guy that was up for a promotion into a leadership position who decided

to take the full amount of paternity leave and it cost him the promotion. He didn't know that,

right? That obviously couldn't have been, you know, public knowledge because you shouldn't be held back for

those things. But he was. He was held back from a promotion because he took paternity leave.

And he was punished for that essentially because the expectation in our culture still on men is that

they don't do those things, that you as a man, you work, you go to work. And that's still

corporate expectations. That's still the expectations that companies hold. That's still the

expectations that most women hold. That's still the expectation that a lot of men hold. And so it was

interesting because I was talking to one of my men's groups and they were asking me like how I was were asking me like how I was feeling about my daughter being born. I said, good. I said,

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