Yeah, when I was a teenager, I used to watch him prepping for the Canadian nationals.

And I was like, he was my goal physique when I wanted to crank my face off.

I was like, oh, this guy is the shit.

And I just like, I literally watched this simply shredded videos.

I was like, I want to look like this guy.

And then I soon after realized that there was no way it was going to happen because of genetics

and because of the sheer drug exposure that I was not willing to put myself through.

But for a while, like, hit him was like.

I'm not sure you didn't have the genetics, to be honest.

No, I don't. Trust me.

You have some genetics.

You have better shoulders than a lot.

I mean, it's ridiculous.

Yeah, boy, that's, yeah, okay.

Well, that's a lot, though, in bodybuilding. That's a lot. That's the width. I mean, and also your muscles, I think you're not selling yourself short a bit, but

anyway.

Maybe.

I don't know.

I've never actually, like, to be honest with myself, I've never actually done like

an actual offseason where I understood everything I know now about drugs, like, let alone basic principles about shit, like, because I stopped so long

ago at this point that I've never done anything properly, realistically. So I don't really know.

You know on the under, on the triangle of gains.

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