Hey there, welcome back to another episode.

Sam, the owner and founder, the lead copywriter at Nomad Copy Agency, is with me again.

This is our second episode together.

Basically, through her agency and membership called Copy on Demand, she helps service providers get copy that sounds like them but converts even better.

And I have a treat for you.

I'm saying this real time because we haven't talked yet.

So like I don't know for sure that's a treat, but I believe so because we just got to

get to know each other in the previous episode, which for us was moments ago, which for

you, you might not have heard it yet.

Head to the description below.

It's the segment called Before We Hit Record.

And it's really cool because you get to learn about Sam and her journey before she became the owner of the Nomad Copy agency. And all that went into that. We're talking panic attacks

on the beach in Vietnam after she told her day job. She's quitting. And I won't spoil it, but that

link is in the description below. Of course, if my voice is new to you or you've heard me a couple

times and you're like, where did this Quajjo guy come from and what happened to Rick Mulready?

Those two episodes are also in the show notes below.

One where you will hear where Rick is and what he's doing now with his AI project.

And the other one is where Rick interviews me and you learn about like why he chose me as the new host of the art of online business and like why I'm qualified to be here and why I can't wait to share more tips and tricks and strategies with you that help online course creators and online membership owners scale from low six figures, let's say $250250,000 in annual revenue, up to $900,000 in annual revenue.

Links in the show notes below.

And now we're going to talk about, right, Sam, sales pages and add copy and how copy matters

a heck of a lot more than the design of your sales page

and how if you do it right, your ad copy can be working for you while you sleep, while you're

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