What is up everyone? Welcome back to the Epic Gardening Podcast. We're joined again by

Rochelle Greer. She's a Garden and Landscape designer. She's the founder of Pith and

Figure, which is an amazing blog that I found way back when I was first starting out

epic gardening funny little story there and she's also the creator of two

boot camps garden design boot camp and planting design boot camp and speaking of

design in general Rochelle you have is saying fall is the

best time to redesign the garden and so in my mind I I kind of know where you're going

here but I would love for you to explain that a little bit more.

Yeah, well, you know, just from a professional designer point of view, everybody calls, your phone

starts ringing like crazy the first warm day of the year and at that point you're

kind of typically booked up not only you are booked up but contractors are booked up and all of that. But that's sort of mentality of like everybody goes crazy in the spring and everybody wants,

they get that like spring fever.

Everybody wants to go get out in the garden whatever, but they have no plan. If you're hiring

a designer, you know, it's kind of too late because they're already booked. But if you're planning

your own garden, not only is Fall better just because you're going to avoid all of that spring rush and that spring chaos and that need, there's kind of a, there's just a pressure in the the spring I don't know if you feel it but everything is just like suddenly growing

There's weeds there's mulching there's just you're wanting to plant stuff you're wanting to do so much that you know kind

of raining yourself in to do that more contemplative process of planning is all impossible.

Like it's just really, really hard.

So the best time to do it is in the fall.

And there's a few other reasons for that,

not just because it's so much easier to do it in the fall and you're not under that spring pressure, spring chaos, spring rush kind of feeling, but also because, you know, here in New England, I'm in New England, like fall I think is here.

It came like three days ago and regarding still green now everything that is The garden is still great though.

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