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Now, on to the episode.

Hi, beautiful people.

I'm fanning out.

I don't know about any of you, but right now we are talking to W.M. Paul Young.

He's the bestselling author of The Shack and this book that I have here, Eve.

I see you as like the godfather of progressive Christian controversy.

Wow. Don't look for a horse head in your bed. Yeah.

Exactly.

But yeah, for anyone that's not familiar with the shack, which I almost find hard to believe

because so many of us come from Christian culture, and even if you don't, there is a movie.

Big players, huge movie, mainstream, this beautiful message all about the divine and his

true heart for us as people. I remember the original controversy was that God was a black woman

and that ruffled so many feathers. So I kind of just wanted to start to talk about how you never intended to be a published author.

I'm Canadian-born up in northern Alberta.

And then when I was 10 months old, my mom and dad and I moved across the world.

My parents were pioneer missionaries in the highlands of New Guinea in a tribal,

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