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Why does a 'Good God' allow Suffering and Evil? Dr Joshua Sijuwade vs Dr Stephen Law

Unbelievable?

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Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 28 August 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

If God is all-powerful and all-loving, why does so much evil exist? In this edition of Unbelievable?, Christian philosopher Dr. Joshua Sijuwade debates atheist philosopher Dr. Stephen Law on whether the reality of suffering undermines belief in God - or whether there are good reasons a loving God might allow it. From moral evil and natural disasters to the evil God challenge and the limits of human understanding, the discussion dives deep into one of philosophy’s most enduring and emotionally charged questions. 👉 Support thought-provoking conversations and help keep the show going at www.premierunbelievable.com/geolink/donate💡 🎧 Never miss an episode! Subscribe to the Unbelievable? podcast a  www.premier.plus/unbelievable 🎙️ 🔗 Get bonus content, updates, fascinating articles, and early access to new episodes - absolutely free! Join now at www.premierunbelievable.com 📢   Social Links: Twitter: https://twitter.com/unbelievablefe Facebook: / https://facebook.com/premierunbelievable Instagram: / https://instagram.com/premierunbelievable Tik Tok: / https://tiktok.com/@premier.unbelievable

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0:44.3

Hello, welcome to Unbelievable.

0:47.2

Unbelievable on the road with me, your host, Andy Kind.

0:50.0

We're at a school in Milton Keynes today,

0:52.8

and we're talking about the problem of evil.

0:58.3

And I've been joined by some sterling guests today this morning.

1:05.1

First of all, on my right, we have Dr. Stephen Law, who can't get enough of unbelievable at the moment, Stephen.

1:06.4

No, here again.

1:07.5

Here again. And it sounds very excited to be here as well.

1:10.0

And on my left, it's a long time since he's been unbelievable, but he's back.

1:15.0

Joshua Situardi, great to have you both.

1:18.4

And the problem of evil obviously is a conversation we've had many times on unbelievable,

1:22.8

but it's something we're returning to now because we've got a live studio audience of students and it's good

1:29.8

to at least introduce people to this topic for the first time. So Josh, let's start with you.

1:38.8

And let's just have a bit of a background, a bit of a backstory. What do you do now and how did you get there?

1:47.0

Yes, so I am very interested in deep philosophical questions. And you might be as well, so

1:54.0

the audience I'm speaking about here. And I'm very interested in thinking about issues to do with

2:00.0

the existence of God. because God is a very,

2:03.0

as a lot of you might believe or maybe you don't believe in it, is a very important being,

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