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🗓️ 14 February 2022
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0:25.8 | Hello and welcome to Coffee Houseshots, The Spectator's Daily Politics Podcast. I'm Cindy U and I'm joined by Katie Balls and James Forsyth. So James, over the weekend, the situation |
0:30.6 | in Ukraine seems to have got much worse. Can you update listeners on what's going on because |
0:35.5 | the Americans do seem to think that war is imminent. |
0:38.8 | So there was another Biden-Puton call over the weekend. That does not seem to have resolved anything. |
0:46.4 | And we have the US warning that a war could start as soon as kind of Wednesday of this week. |
0:52.2 | That's a frequent feature of U.S. intelligence briefings |
0:55.6 | on this question. I think what is clear now is that Vladimir Putin has assembled |
1:01.4 | everything on the borders of Ukraine that he would need to launch an invasion. And the question then |
1:07.9 | becomes, what will it take for him not to do that? I think the hope that the |
1:13.9 | threat of Western sanctions that are more severe than anything that's been seen in the past |
1:18.1 | would be enough to deter him is receding. You had the Ukrainian ambassador to the UK last night |
1:23.8 | floating the idea that Ukraine might be prepared to say that it doesn't want to join |
1:27.9 | NATO anymore, if that is what it would take to avert war. That would certainly offer Vladimir Putin |
1:33.4 | a kind of diplomatic off-ramp, if you see what I mean, in that he could say, look, |
1:37.6 | I'm pulling my troops back because I have now achieved something, which is that Ukraine is |
1:41.0 | accepted that it will not be joining the NATO alliance. I still think, as I said |
1:45.2 | on the Saturday edition of Coffee House shots, but the view of a kind of canniest observers of Moscow |
1:51.0 | in the UK government is right, that what Vladimir Putin will do is something that is designed |
1:55.9 | to further expose splits in the Western Alliance. And if he were to simply launch a full-on invasion of Ukraine, |
2:04.1 | I think the Western response to that would be unified because, you know, no one could accept that. |
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