Welcome to Not Another One with me, Ian Martin, Miranda Green, Tim Montgomery, and down the line with us today is Steve Richards.

So welcome to the weekend edition of our podcast where we try and

reflect a bit more, move beyond the day to day of politics, and though this actually this

week's subject was inspired by something that happened that happened this week. We're going to

talk about the politics of language, really, in political language, inspired

by that phrase in Kirstama's speech, which we talked about a length in the last podcast,

last edition, which is Island of Strangers, which as Miranda said, is that a sort of indie

band title or a weird film or novel or what is it?

But anyway, and then we're going to get into talking about that leads us on to talking about take back control, tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime, the lady's not for turning, you've never had it so good, fight them on the beaches. There's a long list of stuff to get into. And we're going to really discuss just the power of political language. The leaders know, a particular leader's good for a reason at using

language and phrases in a certain way. Anyway, we're going to get stuck into that after we've had

a bit of a chat about Trump. Now, we're talking, recording this while Trump is on the move. He's

in the Middle East, various visits, extraordinary pictures and scenes. So we can't account for everything

he's going to do in the next few days and hours. But Tim, the question I wanted to pose to you

as someone who has been pro-Trump, but you've spoken very eloquently about your concern on

tariffs and all of that is in crude terms is he

winning or is he losing post you know a hundred days I mean it looks to me as though on

tariffs he's he's losing well he's definitely retreated from the extraordinary position he

announced on the Liberation Day.

You look at the opinion polls.

He's really lost a lot of support, even from some of his core supporters in the Swing States.

We know about the stock markets.

We know about, you know, American companies lobbying him for exceptions from the

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