Why Do I Get Panic Attacks?! | Conversation with Steve Hayes
Matthias J Barker Podcast
Matthias Barker
5 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 25 October 2022
⏱️ 54 minutes
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Summary
In this latest episode, I'm joined once again by the incredible Dr. Steve Hayes to talk all about panic disorder.
If you aren't familiar with Dr. Hayes, he is the co-founder of the ACT Therapy model, also known as Acceptance and Commitment Therapy. In this conversation we talk about:
- His personal experience with panic, how it started, and what it's like now
- Common sources of panic disorder and patterns of avoidance
- How to approach panic attacks and what to consider if you are experiencing panic disorder
Make sure to check out Dr. Hayes's book called A Liberated Mind.
About my guest:
Steven C. Hayes is a Nevada Foundation Professor of Psychology in the Behavior Analysis Program at the University of Nevada. An author of 47 books and over 675 scientific articles, he is especially known for his work on "Acceptance and Commitment Therapy" or “ACT” which is one of the most widely used and researched new methods of psychological intervention over the last 20 years. Dr. Hayes has received several national awards, such as the Lifetime Achievement Award from the Association for Behavioral and Cognitive Therapy. His popular book Get Out of Your Mind and Into Your Life for a time was the best-selling self-help book in the United States, and his new book A Liberated Mind has been recently released to wide acclaim. His TEDx talks and blogs have been viewed or read by over three million people, and he is ranked among the most cited psychologists in the world.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Mathiaship ARCA podcast everybody. |
| 0:06.8 | Dr. Steve Hayes, everybody, I'm so excited. |
| 0:09.7 | I'm so excited to get to talk with this guy. |
| 0:11.3 | He is a personal hero. |
| 0:12.8 | It's the second time, actually, that we've gotten to speak. |
| 0:14.8 | I had him on my podcast once last year and that was like, |
| 0:18.4 | I don't know, a highlight of my entire year. |
| 0:21.4 | Because Dr. Steve Hayes has been such a tremendous impact |
| 0:24.2 | academically, philosophically, as a clinician, |
| 0:27.9 | so much of my style. |
| 0:29.7 | so much of my theoretical orientation, so much of the way that I build metaphors, the way that I |
| 0:34.7 | explain things, the viral videos that I have on TikTok or on Instagram, so much of that is |
| 0:40.1 | undergirded by the theory and the influence of, well, Steve Hayes and all of his co-founders and |
| 0:48.0 | associates and the people who build, act, the people behind, well, contextual behavior science, |
| 0:52.8 | just as a field. I just am so enthusiastic to get to share this with you because it's been such |
| 0:56.8 | a deep impact on me. So we talk about panic disorder today. Panic is something that I've really |
| 1:03.6 | been looking at with fresh eyes. If you've been following my work in the past year, I've been |
| 1:09.0 | taken a lot of time to learn something called internal family systems, which is a trauma therapy, |
| 1:13.6 | and I've been familiarizing myself with the neuroscience of trauma response. And panic is an |
| 1:18.4 | area that I'm continuing to learn more and more about and even looking at some of the research |
| 1:23.1 | guys like panchcept and understanding the connection between grief and panic. Something you might |
| 1:27.7 | not know about Steve Hayes is that, well, he will call that he's recovering from panic disorder. |
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