Welcome to the conversations that matter podcast. My name is John Harris. Very quick

episode today. I want to talk to you about a video someone sent me. So this is

actually two messages I got in a row from

different patrons on Patreon. One sent me this link to a video that Founders Ministries put

out, it's very short, a guy named Graham Gundin who works for founders or

with Founders Ministries and he is he articulates the argument for staying in the Southern Baptist Convention and he does it well and it's the argument that I've heard over and over and over

from a lot of people many who aren't now articulating that same argument but it is the main one you'll hear. This could

apply though beyond Southern Baptist. This is any denomination that's going in a

bad direction and perhaps too far gone, but there's this rally to try to stay there

because conservatives way too often let organizations go bad and what what happens we built up this beautiful

organization we put lots of money into it it's well endowed we have great

buildings and then we don't get to stay around for any of it.

We have to go and start and build a new one.

And this is what the fundamentalist did.

This was the whole idea behind Westminster Seminary.

And denominations just keep splitting. They just keep splitting into

smaller and smaller segments until you're so fractured it's

ridiculous and of course this is what Catholics break Protestants for too. I don't know if

they're doing that so much these days but this is the this is the trend for

at least the last century really more than that the last two

centuries at least you see this trend and so the question is why why this

trend what what brings this about I want to take a And so the question is why this trend?

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