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Therapist Uncensored Podcast

Why Diets Don’t Work—and What to Do Instead with Judith Matz (277)

Therapist Uncensored Podcast

Sue Marriott LCSW, CGP & Ann Kelley PhD

Social Sciences, Society & Culture, Science, Relationships, Education, Self-improvement

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 26 August 2025

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Ann Kelley and expert Judith Matz unpack the complex relationship between dieting, emotional eating, body image, and weight stigma. Together they challenge conventional views on weight and health, emphasizing that fitness matters more than the number on the scale, and explores why most diets fail both psychologically and physiologically. They also cover the historical roots of fatphobia, the dangers of weight bias in healthcare, and the rise of weight loss drugs like Ozempic. Judith highlights the importance of attuned eating, informed consent, and compassionate care, offering a weight-inclusive approach to healing our relationship with food and body. View the full episode show notes at TherapistUncensored.com/TU277

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0:00.0

When I work with clients, it is scary to let go of trying to diet for weight loss.

0:06.8

And there's so many messages in our culture when you lose weight, then you'll be happy and sexy

0:11.2

and successful and attractive, but also healthy.

0:14.1

And so people can feel like they're giving up.

0:16.1

And that's why it's so important for them to get information.

0:19.7

Like, you know, you can even think of it as just being holistic.

0:22.3

Like our health, physical, emotional, spiritual is so much broader than a number on the scale.

0:28.7

So what I'm talking about, this weight inclusive approach, and for anybody out there who's heard of health at every size, that's an example of a weight-inclusive approach. It's actually really

0:38.0

hopeful because to the extent our clients are invested in their health and well-being, we have all

0:43.5

kinds of ways to support them in practicing behaviors, developing positive, sustainable

0:48.0

behaviors to integrate into their lives. Welcome to Therapist Uncensored.

0:55.2

Building on decades of professional experience, this podcast tackles neurobiology, modern attachment,

1:00.8

and more in an honest way that's helpful in healing humans.

1:04.2

Your session begins now with Dr. Anne Kelly and Sue Marriott.

1:14.3

Hey, you guys, while we know relationships are wonderful, they are also really hard.

1:20.6

Many of us believe that they shouldn't be, that if we have good connection and good

1:24.6

communication, things will just go smoothly.

1:27.1

But it's really that belief

1:28.2

that can make us feel stubborn and even more hopeless. So relationships take work. It does for Sue and I.

1:34.8

We can make it look easy. It's not. And one of the ways is because many of us, we differ. We differ in

1:40.1

what activates us, what makes us feel threat, the expectation, and it's these differences that

1:45.1

are held in our body, not our thoughts, and they influence how we talk, how we love, how we fight.

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