Bonus – Feel It to Heal It, Continued: Applying the Science of Interoception (278)

Therapist Uncensored Podcast

Sue Marriott LCSW, CGP & Ann Kelley PhD

Social Sciences, Society & Culture, Science, Relationships, Education, Self-improvement

4.7 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 2 September 2025

⏱️ 14 minutes

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In this half of the conversation, Rebecca Kase and the Sue dig deeper into the concept of interoception, emphasizing its significance in therapy and personal well-being. They discuss how our physiological states influence our narratives and the importance of breath in regulating these states. From the roles of implicit and explicit memory in shaping our experiences to how adaptive and maladaptive memories affect our mental health, they highlight therapeutic approaches to updating narratives and the journey of healing and resilience, providing practical tools for therapists and resources for further learning. View this episodes' shownotes at TherapistUncensored.com/TU278

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0:00.0	If you can start to track your client's physiological state and get curious about where do they
0:07.0	tend to live?
0:07.8	Do they live in the blue zone, the green zone, the red zone?
0:10.7	Do they live in the tide?
0:11.8	What does that look like?
0:13.4	How much does that ebb and flow during the day?
0:15.5	And then how does that correlate with the underlying process that they're bringing to you?
0:19.7	If you hear this chronic story of,
0:22.4	I'm a piece of shit, right? I don't need anyone. I can't trust anyone. Nobody loves me.
0:31.5	How does that relate to the state that they're chronically living within? And how does that state
0:36.7	make sense in the context of
0:38.7	their whole life? Because the autonomic nervous system, it's automatic. This is what I use when I
0:44.1	teach my clients. Your autonomic nervous system is your automatic nervous system. It is responding
0:48.7	to your brain's perception of what's happening right here, right now. And it's making predictions
0:54.0	about what
0:54.5	you need to stay alive. But the problem with our trauma stories, when they are those maladaptively
1:00.0	stored experiences, is that they fog up our mirror of being able to accurately perceive what is
1:07.7	and isn't safe. That was then, this is now. It's like a miscalibration.
1:12.9	Hope you enjoy a preview of this full episode published exclusively as a bonus for our
1:18.0	incredible online neuro nerd community. This group is the backbone that keeps this podcast thriving,
1:24.2	and you can find out more at Therapist Uncensored.com slash join.
1:33.8	Hey, you guys, while we know relationships are wonderful, they are also really hard.
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