Bonus: Don’t Cancel – Connect: Loretta J. Ross on Activism with Heart (276)

Therapist Uncensored Podcast

Sue Marriott LCSW, CGP & Ann Kelley PhD

Social Sciences, Society & Culture, Science, Relationships, Education, Self-improvement

4.7 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 19 August 2025

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Summary

If you’re tired of cancel culture but still care about justice - this conversation is for you

In 2022, we had the privilege of having Loretta J. Ross on the podcast to discuss "Calling in the Call Out Culture". With the publication of her new book, "Calling In: How to Start Making Change with Those You'd Rather Cancel" - we felt this message was just as relevant as ever. Together, Sue Marriott and Loretta J. Ross explore the themes of social justice, empathy, and the importance of dialogue in navigating political divides. Loretta shares insights from her book, discussing the need for compassion and under standing in activism. They delve into the complexities of human relationships, the balance between calling in and calling out, and the significance of individual experiences in shaping political views. The conversation emphasizes the power of community engagement and the role of personal growth in fostering a more just society. View this episodes shownotes at TherapistUncensored.com/TU276 and join our premium online community for bonus content at TherapistUncensored.com/Join

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0:00.0	The fact that we have people saying empathy is for suckers, that caring about the common public
0:10.4	good is a weakness, that you should just be shameless in your ability to harm somebody else and be proud that you're in a Darwinian struggle for the survival of the fittest.
0:26.7	These are not the values that I admire or like, but most of all, they're not the values that's going to ensure the endurance of humanity.
0:36.1	Hope you enjoy a preview of this full episode published exclusively as a bonus for our
0:41.2	incredible online neuro nerd community.
0:44.2	This group is the backbone that keeps this podcast thriving.
0:47.4	And you can find out more at Therpsonsensor.com slash join.
0:57.0	Hey, you guys.
0:58.5	While we know relationships are wonderful, they are also really hard.
1:03.3	Many of us believe that they shouldn't be, that if we have good connection and good
1:07.3	communication, things will just go smoothly.
1:09.8	But it's really that belief that can make us feel
1:11.8	stubborn and even more hopeless. So relationships take work. It does for Sue and I. We can make it look easy.
1:18.4	It's not. And one of the ways is because many of us, we differ. We differ in what activates us,
1:23.8	what makes us feel threat, the expectation. And it's these differences that are held in our body,
1:29.1	not our thoughts, and they influence how we talk, how we love, how we fight. So holding that belief,
1:35.0	if he or she or they could just understand me, if they love me, they do something different,
1:39.8	is not really true. And we're talking about relationships with your partner, your teenager,
1:46.1	your mother-in-law. So soon I've created an online course that can help you understand yourself
1:51.5	and those you love in a different way. This is not just for therapist, it's for everyone.
1:57.1	Although the good news is if you're therapist, you can get CEs along the way, and all of you can use the visuals and the worksheets individually, or you can even use them in your own private practice.
2:08.0	So while the course is based on our book, Secure Relating, Holding Your Own, an Insecure World, it is definitely not a replication of the book.
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