Why did we stop hanging out?
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4.7 • 911 Ratings
🗓️ 22 April 2026
⏱️ 47 minutes
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We’ve heard a lot about the loneliness epidemic in this country, but it might be worth asking: Do we even like spending time with people anymore? Derek Thompson, staff writer at The Atlantic, joins host Krys Boyd to discuss the phenomenon where we’re on our phones but digitally surrounded by people, and how this isolation is rewiring us to be more anti-social – including in both our personal relationships and political lives. His article is “The Anti-Social Century.”
This episode originally aired February, 6th 2025.
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| 0:00.0 | I'm CNN tech reporter Claire Duffy. |
| 0:04.3 | I cover artificial intelligence and other new technologies for a living. |
| 0:11.8 | And even I sometimes get overwhelmed trying to keep up with it all and stay safe in the process. |
| 0:17.8 | On the podcast, Terms of Service, we can explore how to experiment with these new tools |
| 0:22.6 | without getting played by them. Listen to CNN's Terms of Service wherever you get your podcasts. |
| 0:46.0 | We keep hearing it from the former surgeon general, from mental health professionals, from books and social media posts. |
| 0:52.4 | Many Americans are extra lonely these days, and chronic loneliness is linked to all kinds of negative health outcomes. |
| 0:56.3 | It's weird that after aching for companionship during the lockdowns and shutdowns of the pandemic, we haven't quite resumed our previous levels of |
| 1:01.6 | social engagement. But what is even weirder is that COVID didn't spark these changes. The time |
| 1:07.4 | we spend socializing has been on the decline for decades. |
| 1:13.8 | From KERA in Dallas, this is think. |
| 1:14.9 | I'm Chris Boyd. |
| 1:21.6 | There seems to be a disconnect between our social media fed envy of anybody, seemingly having more fun than we are, |
| 1:26.0 | and our willingness to risk going out but not having the best time ever. |
| 1:32.6 | So more and more often, we choose the social safety of solitude, even as we long to feel more connected. |
| 1:35.7 | Derek Thompson is a staff writer at the Atlantic. He explores this phenomenon and the ways it is reshaping our habits, our relationships, even our politics in an article titled The Anti-Social Century. Derek, welcome |
| 1:45.7 | back to think. It's great to be here. Thank you. By way of example, you write about this Mexican |
| 1:51.3 | restaurant near where you live in North Carolina. You went there last summer with your family, |
| 1:56.1 | and initially you thought maybe the place wasn't doing well. That's right. So we're there. Me, my wife and my at the time, |
| 2:04.0 | maybe 13-month-old daughter are at this Mexican restaurant at maybe 5 p.m. in the afternoon. It's |
| 2:08.9 | completely empty. But on the bar, there's a set of maybe 9, 10, 11 large brown paper bags of to-go food. |
| 2:16.5 | There's a sign at the front of the bar that says bar seating closed. |
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