Why David Chang Is ‘Steve Jobs with a Knife’
Guy Kawasaki's Remarkable People
Guy Kawasaki
4.5 • 679 Ratings
🗓️ 29 October 2025
⏱️ 32 minutes
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Summary
What happens when a world-class chef learns that success doesn’t taste like he imagined?
David Chang—the culinary force behind Momofuku and author of Eat a Peach—joins Guy Kawasaki to talk about ambition, burnout, scaling the unscalable, and learning to trade Michelin stars for family time. From plumbing disasters to poetic revelations, Chang opens up about the messy, beautiful art of creating something worth tasting.
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| 0:00.0 | Food at its very best is like nothing else. |
| 0:03.0 | It's something you can express. |
| 0:06.0 | It's a story. |
| 0:08.0 | It can be delicious. |
| 0:09.0 | And the absurd part of it is it's going to be in a toilet eight to ten hours later. |
| 0:15.0 | No, listen, for those that don't know anything about a Tibetan sand mandala, |
| 0:19.0 | nobody would build a business where everything would disintegrate if it wasn't refrigerated. It's a terrible business idea, |
| 0:25.4 | yet we do it all the time. |
| 0:31.2 | Hey there, it's Guy Kawasaki. This is the Remarkable People podcast. |
| 0:39.3 | We have a special edition today. In October 2025, I interviewed this guest at the Masters of Scale conference in San Francisco, California. |
| 0:50.7 | And the folks at Wait What, who put on the conference, paired me up with David Chang of all people to interview. |
| 0:59.3 | Now, if you're a foodie, you already know who David Chang is, but just in case you might not, |
| 1:05.6 | David Chang is the creator of the Momo Fuoku restaurant. |
| 1:10.2 | He's this great, great character on this video. |
| 1:14.3 | That's not a character. |
| 1:15.3 | He's just being him called Ugly Delicious. |
| 1:17.8 | He has written a really fun book called Eat a Peach, which is his memoir. |
| 1:23.7 | At the end of that, memoir, there's 33 tips for chefs that I recommend you read because it's |
| 1:29.2 | really 33 tips for life. So anyway, this is David Chang and I. Oh my God, we let it all hang out |
| 1:36.9 | on stage and I came up with a new name for David Chang. He is Steve Jobs with a knife because he has that kind of fanatical, |
| 1:49.5 | perfectionist attitude that none other than Steve Jobs had. So now before the interview with |
| 1:57.0 | David Chang, I made a tribute to Jane Goodall. Jane Goodall was a friend of mine and she had just passed away and I just wanted to |
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