We're back with Francis Chan, who is kind enough to join us today and tomorrow.

And Francis and his wife, Lisa, are the authors of the new book, you and me forever, marriage

and light of eternity.

And as you know, Francis, men and women are postponing marriage later and later, even

among Christians in the church, this trend is happening among couples with the full intent

of eventually getting married.

So what is this trend doing to the church in?

What is it doing to the institution of Christian marriage?

My, I believe that at least 90% of those who are postponing, postponing, they're already

sleeping together, so they don't see a big need to rush.

There's no sense of why I want to get married, you know, to really consummate this.

I mean, there's so much immorality in the church and it's, it's disgusting.

I mean, people need to know that God hates that.

Don't go fool yourself.

We're going to get married anyway at some point and, and we're, we're in love and this

or that.

It's like, no, you don't understand your, your temple, the Holy Spirit, your a member

of Christ and you're joining yourself basically to a prostitute.

You're, you're entering in a union that God wants nothing to do with.

It's immoral.

And I, I believe there's more and more of that in the church.

It's becoming more and more acceptable and it is still just as heinous in God's eyes as

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