Hey, this is Ari. Welcome back to the show. In this episode, I am speaking with Dr. Eric Gordon,

who is a unique person in many different ways, unique in the way his mind works, unique in his brilliance,

in his humility, in his extraordinary depth of knowledge and experience, particularly with

chronic complex illness. He's been in clinical practice for over 40 years, which is longer

than I've been alive.

So I turned 40 later this year.

And he's been actually in clinical practice longer than 40 years.

I don't know how much longer, but maybe 43, 44 years.

He's been doing this a long time.

He's seen many, many thousands of patients.

And he really has a level of experience, particularly, again, with chronic complex illness that is hard to find anywhere else. I had the

pleasure of meeting him for the first time a couple months ago as I was one of the speakers. I'm honored

that I was chosen as one of the speakers for his upcoming summit on long-haul COVID and

chronic complex illness. And we had a beautiful, fun, fascinating conversation and just the meeting

of two minds with very different sets of experience and very different,

I don't want to say paradigms, but very different approaches to health and areas of focus,

created this wonderfully fertile ground for conversation and sort of synthesis and and creativity and

new ideas coming out of it and we wanted to continue that by him coming on the show i invited him to

come speak here and share his experience and expertise around chronic complex illness and chronic

fatigue um he is in addition to and expertise around chronic complex illness and chronic fatigue.

He is, in addition to someone who's been in clinical practice for over 40 years, he's also

engaged in clinical research.

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