It's the Brian Larra Show on WNYC.

Good morning again everyone.

With us now, Annie Lowry, who writes about money and politics for the Atlantic.

And she wrote the 2018 book, Give People Money,

how a Universal Basic Income would End Poverty, Revolutionize

Work, and Remake the World.

Well based on an Atlantic article she wrote last week, maybe she should write a new book called Give People Home Ownership.

The article is called It Will Never Be a Good Time to Buy a House, well maybe in 2030.

And this isn't just about New York and San Francisco and places like those.

This is a national take and no it is not primarily about the recent rise in mortgage interest rates.

We'll also touch on some other recent Annie Larry articles as she just keeps

provoking us to think more deeply about money and politics kinds of things with

articles like her newest one called inflation is your fault and recent ones like maybe don't drive into

Manhattan is single parenthood the problem if you're worried about the climate move your money and the new meaning of tattoos.

Annie, always good to have you, even though our main hook today is your housing Dumloupe article.

Welcome back to WNYC anyway.

Thank you for having me for more bad news.

Yeah, well let's first establish that you say

unaffordable home buying prices are not just in the big cities like New York in San Francisco right now.

How national a problem are you describing here?

There are certainly places where homes are still affordable for middle-income families.

They're absolutely places.

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