This is LBC from Global, leading Britain's conversation with James O'Brien.

Three minutes after ten is the time. I have been wrestling since yesterday's program with the question of how two public statements made by

two people, one of whom deserves to be at the very centre of a story and one of whom does not

but is desperate to be, could portray such profoundly different perspectives. And it's got worse,

not better in the interim. I've just listened to somebody trying to claim that the police officers turned up at the scene of Henry Novak's murder, somehow determined to believe in a racial element to it. I've read the sentencing notes that the judge provided. I presume that Mark Novak was in court for every day of that trial. And there is absolutely no evidence to base that on.

I've listened to quite a lot of gibberish about diversity guidelines

without anybody mentioning that it is all filed under a document that states

it underpins our efforts to police with courage, empathy and respect, delivering

a service that is anti-discriminatory. I've listened to politicians trying to claim that there

is an anti-white bias in the British police, and I've thought not for the first time, that that must be

the end of it now. Surely everybody's going to wake up and go, no, we can't get any more bonkers

than this. But we can. And part of the reason that we can is that things happen that are really

easy to understand. And people, for whatever reasons, and we may work out some of them a little

later in the program, are determined not to see it. They are determined

to ignore the evidence of their own eyes and ears. So, for example, in the aftermath of the release

of that hideous and heartbreaking footage of Henry Novak, which I will tell you more about shortly,

two men stepped up in public to make separate statements.

One of them got what they wanted. It was not this one.

We do not want his death to be used to create further division, hatred or tension.

This is not a case about Sikhism. This is not a case about racism. This is a case

about murder. You're going to hear that a lot today because everybody, it seems, is determined to

defy the wishes of that grieving father, who was in court, I imagine, I confess to you, I haven't double-checked,

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