Hey everyone, Greg Moravito here. I am one of the hosts of the Eater Uppsel.

With me as always is your other host, Helen Rosner.

And on today's episode of the Eater Upsell,

we are chatting with Stella Parks,

who is this brilliant dessert,

pastry blogger, recipe writer.

She has this book out right now called Brave Tart,

iconic American desserts, where she has all these recipes

for how to make these kind of nostalgia treats at home, just the way that you think about them

and just the way you taste them.

We're going to chat with Stella Parks, but actually before we do that, Helen, I believe there's

something you wanted to chat with me about.

You published a story on eater.com earlier this week about a subject that is near and dear to my heart.

Chuck E cheese. I'm talking about Chuck E cheese. Chuck E Cheese is hugely important to me.

It's important to my childhood, it's important to my present.

I have a mythical story about Chuck E Cheese that I have been working on for like a year.

It is the great white whale of my journalistic career.

But in the past couple of weeks, Chuck E Cheese made this tremendous announcement that they were

retiring their animatronic

rock band, like the robots are no more.

And I want to know how it feels for you to have to chronicle the death of your own childhood?

I don't know. I mean I think it's kind of a stupid move just because like the nostalgia factor has

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