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Today, Explained

Why both sides fail on immigration

Today, Explained

Vox

Politics, Daily News, News

4.310.3K Ratings

🗓️ 18 April 2026

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Immigration might be President Donald Trump’s signature issue, but what do Americans actually think about border security and enforcement? This show was edited by Kasia Broussalian, fact checked by Esther Gim, mixed by Shannon Mahoney, video edited by Christopher Snyder, and hosted by Astead Herndon. A migrant climbs over the border fence into the US after fetching groceries for other migrants waiting to be processed by authorities on the US-Mexico border. Photo by GUILLERMO ARIAS/AFP via Getty Images. You can also watch this episode on youtube.com/vox. Listen to Today, Explained ad-free by becoming a Vox Member: vox.com/members. New Vox members get $20 off their membership right now. Transcript at ⁠vox.com/today-explained-podcast.⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

So, immigration used to be one of Donald Trump's strongest issues.

0:05.0

We're going to have strong borders.

0:07.0

We're going to build the wall.

0:09.0

But now, not so much.

0:11.0

We're going to hear.

0:13.0

Ice out of our land!

0:16.0

Ice out of the LA!

0:18.0

Americans do not like what Donald Trump has done on immigration since he's come back for another term.

0:24.3

And that was before I started killing protesters in Minnesota.

0:28.2

But take Trump out of it.

0:30.0

What do Americans actually think about immigration and border security?

0:33.9

How much are both parties responsible for the broken immigration system we currently have?

0:39.0

And what, if anything, should the next president do to fix it?

0:42.5

That's all today on America, actually.

0:45.0

Let's dig in.

0:48.5

Where do the negotiations with Iran stand? What can a deal actually look like? And does diplomacy still have a chance?

0:59.9

I personally believe we will get an agreement. I think there's going to be an agreement forthcoming of one kind or another.

1:05.8

I think the world needs that. I think we desperately need to calm things down. I'm Jake Sullivan. And I'm John Feiner. And we're the hosts of The Long Game, a weekly

1:15.0

national security podcast. This week, former Secretary of State John Kerry joins us on the pod.

1:20.5

The episode's out now. Search for and follow The Long Game, wherever you get your podcasts.

1:26.2

So I'm scheduled to interview Arizona Senator Ruben Gallego in the coming weeks, and he's

1:30.4

been talking a lot about border security and immigration.

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