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Today, Explained

How to fight burnout

Today, Explained

Vox

Politics, Daily News, News

4.310.3K Ratings

🗓️ 19 April 2026

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

We've been stuck in cycles of burnout for decades. Have Gen Z workers found a way out? This episode was produced by Peter Balonon-Rosen and Danielle Hewitt, edited by Jenny Lawton, fact-checked by Melissa Hirsch, engineered by Patrick Boyd, and hosted by Jonquilyn Hill. Empty battery. Photo Illustration by Thomas Trutschel/Photothek via Getty Images. You can take a version of the burnout test here. If you have a question, give us a call at 1-800-618-8545 or email askvox@vox.com. Listen to Explain It to Me ad-free by becoming a Vox Member: vox.com/members. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Support for Explaned to Me comes from Starbucks, vibing to the hook of your favorite song,

0:06.1

stepping outside and immediately feeling the sun on your face, sipping a refreshing drink.

0:11.5

Those are the moments that energize us. And if that third one sounds particularly enticing,

0:17.4

you might be due for a new energy refresher from Starbucks.

0:25.2

It's the flavors you know and love, and now with a boost of energy.

0:28.7

Try the all-new energy refreshers at Starbucks.

0:35.7

Burnout kind of comes from a place of just like numbness or not feeling and lack of motivation.

0:43.0

Tense, pain, angst in my chest that then just spread slowly across to my shoulders.

0:48.0

We're stuck in this hard place of I don't want to get up this job, but I don't live in enjoying it anymore.

0:52.3

Jonathan Malescic landed his dream job teaching teaching out a small Catholic college in Pennsylvania.

0:57.2

From about age 20 or so, I wanted to be a college religion or theology professor.

1:04.7

And I got it. I got exactly my dream.

1:08.5

He was publishing papers, earning tenure.

1:11.6

He was really happy until he wasn't.

1:14.6

So about eight or nine years into the career,

1:18.6

I found it harder and harder to get out of bed in the morning.

1:23.6

I started having weird, inexplicable pains in my torso in particular.

1:31.6

I was constantly exhausted.

1:33.7

I dreaded going to work.

1:37.4

Everyone at the college had to take theology.

1:39.2

Very few wanted to.

1:41.1

So my class was, you know, somewhat resented by the students. The college itself was under

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