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The News Agents

Why are the Tories arguing over immigration?

The News Agents

Global

News, Daily News, Government, Politics

4.15.4K Ratings

🗓️ 27 November 2023

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Net migration is at an all-time high. Almost three times higher - ironically - than before the Brexit vote.

If everyone agrees it’s unsustainable then which parts of it do we want cut?

And if migrants are actually plugging vital gaps in our economy then why can’t we say so?

Also today - New Zealand has just U-turned on its smoking ban. Will we stick to ours? And where is Labour now on that 28 billion pounds promised for green spending…

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Senior Producer: Gabriel Radus

Producer: Laura FitzPatrick

Planning Producer: Alex Barnett

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0:00.0

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0:08.1

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0:11.9

There's a lot of unhappiness within the Tory ranks, within the Tory cabinet, within the actual government about the state of immigration, both legal and illegal.

0:23.5

They think the numbers are too high, and they're trying to work out who to blame.

0:28.7

What has become clear since the latest set of immigration figures were released last week,

0:33.8

which shows that net migration, the difference between the total number of people coming

0:37.1

and the total number of people leaving, is, again, at around the 700,000 mark, is that

0:43.5

both within the cabinet, even within the Home Office and the new Home Secretary and his

0:49.3

immigration minister, there is disagreement, there is disarray. On today's newsagents, we're going to talk

0:55.1

you through the politics of immigration and why it seems to be that despite 13 years of

1:00.1

promises, the Conservatives seem unable or really unwilling to bring that number down.

1:05.4

Welcome to the newsagents.

1:10.1

The news agents. It's Emily. It's Lewis. And John has emigrant. The Newsagents.

1:12.4

It's Emily. It's Lewis.

1:13.9

And John has emigrated.

1:15.6

We're happy to contribute to the net emigration figures ourselves on a regular basis by the fact that John Soapel almost always leaves the country every month.

1:23.6

He's just washed up on some deserted lovely beach.

1:26.4

And rightly so.

1:27.1

And rightly so. Poor boy. He does work too hard.

1:30.3

We're looking forward to the upcoming interview with the deputy

1:33.2

interior minister of Barbados, which will presumably come at some point this week.

1:37.4

Undersecretary of sake. Yes. And the Barbudan Council. Yeah, we think so. Not to

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