Hello and welcome to the Story Grid podcast. This is a show dedicated to helping you become a better

writer. I'm your host Tim Grawl and I am a struggling writer trying to figure out how to tell a

story that works. Joining me shortly as Sean Coyne, he is a creator of StoryGrid, the author of

the book Story Grid and an editor with over 25 years experience. In this episode,

with me coming very close to the end of my second draft, Sean and I start out discussing

what we're going to do to start analyzing and editing the second draft. And then we move into

a bigger question about what we're trying to accomplish with this podcast

and with my writing and what it means to be a writer in today's world.

So it was a fun discussion.

I think it's something you'll enjoy.

And so let's jump in and get started.

So, Sean, I am this close and I'm putting my fingers really, really close together to having a finished second draft.

I plan on having it to you this week.

So we're recording on a Tuesday.

I should have it to you by this weekend.

So really excited.

I'm finished up kind of the final showdown of the like threshing and now I'm moving into the end of the book. So I think I only have

about four or five thousand words left. Wow, great. So I'm really excited. I feel like it's come

together well. I mean, obviously,

you know, I don't know how much will be changed and how much it actually works. But I definitely,

in the first draft, we just skipped a whole part of the end. And so I actually wrote that part,

felt like it came together pretty well, felt like I had

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