While these might seem like soft outcomes, you can imagine how the kind of people who

experience a sense of felt safety, a sense of congruence at this level, are set up to

produce results in a totally different way than somebody who doesn't feel safe and who

feels a sense of internal conflict with the values of the organization.

Hi, I'm Michael Hyatt.

And I'm Megan Hyatt Miller.

And this is Lead to Win, our weekly podcast to help you win at work and succeed at life.

And in this episode, we're going to be talking about culture, which is, you all know, is

one of those soft things that nobody can define that's probably of limited value.

You need to be executing.

Culture is something for people that, you know, have too much time on their hands.

And, you know, somehow get the woo of it all.

Wow, that's a real sales pitch.

I just finished what we think, though, isn't it?

Well, I just, I was going to tell you, too, I just finished writing a book on reverse psychology.

Don't buy it.

Wow.

Okay, that was your one dad joke with a whole podcast you're done now.

I have to credit the account dad jokes for that when I read that yesterday.

Unbelievable.

Okay.

So obviously we don't believe that, right?

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