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Cautionary Tales with Tim Harford

"Who would you dine with? Scott or Amundsen?" Malcolm Gladwell and Tim Harford in Discussion.

Cautionary Tales with Tim Harford

Pushkin Industries

History, Society & Culture

4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 19 August 2022

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

Malcolm Gladwell joins Tim Harford to discuss our recent three-part tale about the race to reach the South Pole. There's talk of imperial decline; the power of the underdog; why getting everything you want is actually a handicap; and limes... lots and lots of limes.   

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0:00.0

Pushkin

0:07.0

Wait, beware!

0:10.8

Ahead of you lie, yawning crevasses, rampaging killer whales and Malcolm Gladwell, bearing

0:17.7

spoilers.

0:19.1

You are about to hear a conversation about our epic Race to the South Pole Trilogy.

0:24.7

So before you do, please have a listen to the Trilogy itself, which should have arrived

0:29.4

in your cautionary tales podcast feed over the past few weeks.

0:33.3

I'll wait.

0:34.3

Don't worry.

0:35.5

Right, as you will now know, the Trilogy makes reference to Malcolm Gladwell's work.

0:41.7

Malcolm is of course the author of David and Goliath, the Bomber Mafia and other best

0:46.7

sellers, and the creator of the revisionist history podcast.

0:51.5

I was so excited when he agreed to come and talk about the South Pole Trilogy, why

0:55.8

Captain Scott's access to money and patrons turned out to be more recurse than a blessing,

1:01.4

what it cost rolled Ammonson to rip up the conventional rules of behaviour, and the astonishing

1:06.3

subplot in which absolutely everybody seemed to forget the scientific evidence and come

1:11.0

down with scurvy.

1:12.7

Now, I had assumed I'd be asking Malcolm about David and Goliath, but that is not how

1:18.1

it went down.

1:19.5

Malcolm had questions for me.

1:21.5

So many questions.

1:22.5

And I just loved trying to keep up with him.

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