Who Will Lead the U.K.? | Interview: Francis Dearnley

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

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🗓️ 24 June 2026

⏱️ 70 minutes

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With telegrams full of breaking news flying in from across the pond, Jonah Goldberg has found himself in desperate need of a good Brit whisperer. Fortunately, Cambridge man and Atlanticist Francis Dearnley has boldly stepped up to the plate, joining Jonah to discuss the ousting of Keir Starmer, the rise of Andy Burnham, progress in Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelensky’s “long-range sanctions,” Soviet Union collapse analogies, Russian political culture, Zelensky’s post-war political future, European views of Donald Trump and Iran, transatlantic relations, the world cup, and Oliver Cromwell’s head. Show Notes: —Ukraine: The Latest Podcast —Postwar: A History of Europe Since 1945 The Remnant is a production of ⁠The Dispatch⁠, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a nonpartisan perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including the Saturday Ruminant, audio versions of all our articles and newsletters, and Jonah’s twice-weekly G-File—⁠click here⁠. Instructions on how to set up your members-only feed can be found here, and if you’d like to remove all ads from your podcast experience, consider becoming a premium Dispatch member ⁠by clicking here⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:18.1	I'm a lot. Ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention?
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1:27.5	Greetings, dear listeners, this is Jonah Goldberg, host to the Remnant Podcast,
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1:45.4	Many of you know him as one of the hosts of the truly excellent Ukraine the latest podcast from The Telegraph. He also recently
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