The Art of Losing | Interview: John Podhoretz
The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg
The Dispatch
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🗓️ 22 June 2026
⏱️ 56 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention. |
| 0:18.0 | Can you dig it? |
| 0:25.7 | Greetings and listeners. |
| 0:26.8 | This is Jonah Goldberg, Coach of the Remnant podcast, brought to you by the Dispatch and Dispatch Media. |
| 0:31.5 | So, we don't do a lot of Israel content and foreign policy content on here. We do our share. |
| 0:38.1 | And this has been a very special time. |
| 0:41.0 | And many people have wanted to make sure that people took away John Podoritz's belt and |
| 0:45.7 | shoelaces during the last, say, week to 10 days. |
| 0:48.8 | But he's been fine. |
| 0:50.0 | He's been holding up very well. |
| 0:51.3 | I would actually say among the supporters, the forthright supporters |
| 0:56.0 | of this war and all that, I think John and his colleagues |
| 1:00.2 | stand out for actual intellectual integrity, which is to say |
| 1:04.2 | that when Trump reversed himself on everything, |
| 1:08.4 | they didn't reverse themselves. They said, no, this sucks. |
| 1:11.0 | And it's not all Vance's fault. |
| 1:12.7 | It's like Trump is making a huge mistake. |
| 1:14.3 | And it shouldn't sound like that's something to praise someone for. |
| 1:18.2 | But how rare it is makes a requirement of it. |
| 1:22.4 | For those you don't know, John is my partner in crime on the Glop podcast. |
| 1:26.6 | He also edits commentary, which I have written for. |
| 1:30.5 | Formerst Jewish intellectual publication in the English-speaking world, world, I don't know. |
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