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Welcome back to Buck I talk. It's market down Monday. We are talking about the

Heisman trophy, something that is synonymous with college football greatness,

something that is more and more synonymous with Ohio State football. And we are

asking when will Ohio State have its next Heisman trophy finalist? And who will

it be? So it's the tandem of those two things. You can't just say, Oh, I think

it'll be this guy before the end of his career. We're marking it down. We got to

be specific. We're marking it down to a specific year. So I'm here with Doug

Lamarice and Steven Means. I'm Nathan Baird. We're all with Cleveland.com. As you

all know, Doug, just in your time on this beat, it seems like this has changed a

little bit in terms of the way Ohio State and the Heisman trophy have a

relationship. They were always a team. I mean, they've got the most, I think

they still don't they share the record for most Heisman trophy winners. Yes,

still with seven. And so it's not like any historic program is going to have a

decent amount of Heisman trophy candidates. If not winners in Ohio State certainly

in that conversation. They have the back-to-back trophy winner Archie Griffin

in 1974, 1975. But at that time and certainly in the proceeding or the following

three or four decades, not a lot of Ohio State players involved in the

discussion and now in abundance of them in the discussion. So I guess just how

have you seen that change just in your time covering this program? So my second

year on the beat, Troy Smith wins the Heisman, which is kind of a big deal. He's

from Cleveland. This is Cleveland.com. So I very, very, very vividly remember

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