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And now, it's Joe PAGS.

Hi, great to have you thanks.

I appreciate you stopping by.

It is the Joe Pag show along with

Carrie Lockey. Apollo's Get It Done. Sam in the house. Kevin Sorboe, Kevin Sorboe, K Sorbs,

what we like to call him. He's on the program today, going to talk about

his book, going to talk about masculinity in this day and age, he's got a new article out on an

op-ed in the Daily Collar, we talked to him about that, plus I've got John Rich on,

yep, country music got John Rich on the country music

superstar John Rich who is just put out a song by a guy named Angie

a pau a paro a paro say you know I want to say it the Italian way, Carrie, that's the problem.

It's probably not Italian.

What is Italian?

His name is Angie, is probably Angelo.

So it's APA-R-O.

I think it's a Pero is how he says it but Angie a pero has got a song called

free man that actually wrote almost 40 years ago that is like going crazy in the charts

today and they just released it like this morning.

So we're gonna play that song for you.

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