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Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

Who's Flying the UFOs? with Gideon Lewis-Kraus

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

MS NOW, Chris Hayes

Msnbc, The Chris Hayes Podcast, Government, Politics, Chris Hayes, Why Is This Happening?, Withpod, Versant, Ms Now, News, Society & Culture, Versant Media

4.69.1K Ratings

🗓️ 29 June 2021

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Alright, tell it to us straight - what's the deal with UFOs? In recent years, there's been a steady drip of reporting about UFOs that has penetrated mainstream culture, moving beyond The X-Files and straight into the Pentagon. A series of reports not only confirmed the existence of a government program dedicated to understanding UFOs, but also showed eye-grabbing footage of military encounters. So what do we know about them? And what exactly is the government up to? Gideon Lewis-Kraus set out to answer these questions in his phenomenal new piece in The New Yorker, "How the Pentagon Started Taking U.F.O.s Seriously", and he joins to tell us what he learned.

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0:30.1

There was an actual government conspiracy, like a genuine and actual one,

0:34.2

by the CIA to suppress people's belief in UFOs.

0:39.3

Not only that, this is in the actual report of this meeting.

0:43.1

Yes.

0:43.7

Come out much later. They say that they want to infiltrate and monitor UFO groups.

0:48.6

Civilian UFO groups that had started to spring up.

0:51.1

So there really is some kernel of seriousness to the conspiracy monitoring here, especially these, me, the government.

0:58.4

Hello and welcome to Wise This Happening with me, your host, Chris Hayes.

1:08.0

You know, there are things that float at the periphery of your news awareness.

1:13.1

Like you see a story and you have to make this kind of triage, this informational triage decision

1:18.0

about like, all right, I'm going to not invest in that one.

1:20.7

I'm going to declare bankruptcy on that story.

1:23.2

And I, because of my job, I don't do that a lot.

1:26.9

I'm reading a lot of about a lot of things and trying to kind of cram as much information

1:32.8

into my brain as possible.

1:34.9

But, you know, there will be stories where I will sort of float past the periphery.

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