Who Pays Tuition at Campbell Law School? (Ep. 451)
Thinking LSAT
Nathan Fox and Ben Olson
4.8 • 868 Ratings
🗓️ 22 April 2024
⏱️ 78 minutes
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Summary
Many law students pay nowhere near full tuition. Some pay no tuition at all. Law schools don’t offer reduced or waived tuition fees out of generosity—it’s a calculated business strategy. But this week, Nathan and Ben discover a law school whose outlandish scholarship numbers seem to defy business sense. The guys also discuss the new US News law school rankings, help listeners choose between law schools, and advise students to keep their study schedules simple.
4:14 - Law School Rankings - US News just released its 2024 law school rankings. While the rankings have changed, their practical value hasn’t. They still provide poor justification for choosing one law school over another.
10:27 - Picking a Law School - Ben and Nathan help two listeners decide between offers of admission. The choice largely depends on answering a single question: “What do you want to do?”
33:48 - Bouncing Back - Listener Tyler stumbled during his April test. Nathan and Ben encourage him to learn from his mistake and to stay the course as he prepares for the June LSAT.
38:48 - There Is No Curve - How will the removal of Logic Games affect the curve on the August LSAT? Easy question. It won’t, because LSAT scores aren’t curved.
45:30 - Study Schedule - An anonymous listener with lots of time to study asks how to structure their study schedule. Ben and Nathan give a surprising answer: It doesn’t matter.
50:28 - Who Pays at Campbell? - The guys browse the scholarship estimator for law schools friendly to splitters with low GPAs. They find Campbell University School of Law, which reports that a staggering 94% of its students receive full-ride scholarships.
1:08:50 - Waitlist to Full Ride - LSAT Demon student Jason just accepted a full-ride scholarship to Texas A&M after being waitlisted by the school earlier this year.
1:13:52 - Word of the Week - We vituperate predatory law schools.
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Of 552 students in the entire school, 520 of them were there on a full ride scholarship. |
| 0:08.0 | I mean the question is, who is paying tuition at Campbell University School of Law? Hello and |
| 0:22.8 | episode 451 of the Thinking Elsat Podcast. I'm Nathan Fox with me is Ben Olson. We are the co-founder of |
| 0:28.5 | Elsat Demon.com and the Elsat Demon Daily podcast. You can be Elsat famous, share news and ask questions on our website, |
| 0:36.0 | thinking Elsat.com. We have one Elsat registration deadline that we need to be aware of right now April 23rd |
| 0:46.3 | this podcast is gonna air on the 22nd so yeah if you're listening to this podcast on launch day you've got today to decide whether you want to register for that June 2024 |
| 0:58.4 | Elsat Ben how do students know whether they're ready to take the test in June if they have to sign up on April 23rd? |
| 1:06.5 | If you like your practice test scores, then sign up. |
| 1:10.8 | If you don't, wait. |
| 1:21.2 | And what if I'm in the gray area? I would say wait. What if I'm in the gray area but games is my best section? |
| 1:23.0 | Then sign up. You can always withdraw before if you need to and it won't count against you. |
| 1:28.0 | You're basically paying $200 to preserve that option or what, $222 now to preserve that option or what $222 now to preserve that option. |
| 1:35.0 | Yep and it's an unfortunate example of the rich getting richer, not hard to find |
| 1:41.9 | examples of those in the world, of course, but it's just one of these things where if you're from a wealthier background, you can afford to just go ahead and register for that test and have it as an option to take it. |
| 1:54.7 | We see like wealthier students do that without even really thinking about it and |
| 1:59.8 | meanwhile the poorer students are like oh man six weeks ahead of time I have to decide whether I'm going to be ready to take this test and it's $222 and I got to be really sure. |
| 2:09.0 | Don't know if there's anything we can do to fix that problem. |
| 2:12.0 | Yeah, I mean, the one thing about it is, although you have the opportunity to pay money |
| 2:17.1 | to preserve that option, psychologically, right? |
| 2:20.3 | People fall into this trap of, oh, I've signed up for it. |
| 2:23.2 | True. |
| 2:24.8 | Now I should take it. |
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